Too much trolling….and too much church

This is the first I’ve gotten to this blog all day….I’ve trolled a bit too much.

Workout: 65 minute 6 mile on my home treadmill (a manual metal monster) followed by a 2 mile walk outside. We have somewhat clear roads now, but more snow is on the way; perhaps 3-6 inches by the end of the week.

On the treadmill: the effort to go harder just wasn’t there. But 8 total miles is better than 0.

Snow in Atlanta
Evidently truck accidents due to untreated roads turned Atlanta into a mess. The notherners are laughing.



But seriously: this demonstrates the value of good government. We usually don’t have such problems where I live because we pay taxes for snow plows and salt trucks. This is NOT a slam at Georgia and Atlanta; this event is a rare one for them, much like a 18-24 inch snowfall for us. The latter shut us down for a couple of days but would have been easily handled by communities in Minnesota and Wisconsin: those sort of events are frequent enough for them to plan ahead and have the necessary resources.

Speaking of trolling: Evidently I am going to have to up my game to meet the real extremist Republicans:

For some Michigan Republicans, their biggest enemies are members of their own party.

In a Facebook post Sunday, the Delta County Republican Party published a list condemning “the Republicans Who Have Blatantly Surrendered to the Homosexual and Stealth Jihad Agenda.” The 18 listed individuals include Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, Michigan Republican Party Chairman Bobby Schostak, the state attorney general, several U.S. Reps., the state Senate majority leader, party officials, Republican candidates and even one gay Democrat mayor.

The last one might have been a mistake, but all won their spots for perceived condemnation of Dave Agema, the Michigan Republican National Committee member who has received continued criticism for his anti-gay comments, but is apparently still supported by the Delta County Republican Party.

“If you continue to stand behind those who are not committed to your platform and values,” the Facebook post said, “you enable the false notion that they have, which is that the constituency of the GOP will follow them no matter what they do or don’t do.”

The Michigan Republican Party did not immediately return a request for comment.

No, these aren’t exactly high officials, but might be somewhat reasonable proxies for what many committed Republicans are. THIS is why compromise is so tough; the Republicans in Congress represent people like these.

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This doesn’t mean that we don’t have our zealots too; here is an example:

In the summer of 2012, twenty-one feminist bloggers and online activists gathered at Barnard College for a meeting that would soon become infamous. Convened by activists Courtney Martin and Vanessa Valenti, the women came together to talk about ways to leverage institutional and philanthropic support for online feminism. Afterward, Martin and Valenti used the discussion as the basis for a report, “#Femfuture: Online Revolution,” which called on funders to support the largely unpaid work that feminists do on the Internet. “An unfunded online feminist movement isn’t merely a threat to the livelihood of these hard-working activists, but a threat to the larger feminist movement itself,” they wrote.

#Femfuture was earnest and studiously politically correct. An important reason to put resources into online feminism, Martin and Valenti wrote, was to bolster the voices of writers from marginalized communities. “Women of color and other groups are already overlooked for adequate media attention and already struggle disproportionately in this culture of scarcity,” they noted. The pair discussed the way online activism has highlighted the particular injustices suffered by transgender women of color and celebrated the ability of the Internet to hold white feminists accountable for their unwitting displays of racial privilege. “A lot of feminist dialogue online has focused on recognizing the complex ways that privilege shapes our approach to work and community,” they wrote.

The women involved with #Femfuture knew that many would contest at least some of their conclusions. They weren’t prepared, though, for the wave of coruscating anger and contempt that greeted their work. Online, the Barnard group—nine of whom were women of color—was savaged as a cabal of white opportunists. People were upset that the meeting had excluded those who don’t live in New York (Martin and Valenti had no travel budget). There was fury expressed on behalf of everyone—indigenous women, feminist mothers, veterans—whose concerns were not explicitly addressed. Some were outraged that tweets were quoted without the explicit permission of the tweeters. Others were incensed that a report about online feminism left out women who aren’t online. “Where is the space in all of these #femfuture movements for people who don’t have internet access?” tweeted Mikki Kendall, a feminist writer who, months later, would come up with the influential hashtag #solidarityisforwhitewomen.

Martin was floored. She’s long believed that it’s incumbent on feminists to be open to critique—but the response was so vitriolic, so full of bad faith and stubborn misinformation, that it felt like some sort of Maoist hazing.[..]

Liberals are perfectly capable of being as unreasonable and as dogmatic as any foaming at the mouth right winger, and when it comes to their core beliefs, no amount of evidence will change their minds; in fact read what a couple of these types said to me (we were discussing the “rape culture” of football…and I had claimed that I’d seen no evidence of this, though I was aware of some of the major stories and scandals:

Me: ” never asserted that it was more prevalant among football players, ”

Ok. Then where does the football being linked with “rape culture” come from? The onus is on the person making the claim.
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Guest 1 It’s not my onus or problem if you don’t understand my repeated assertions of why the two cultures are linked.

later: Guest 2: “Be honest, most women you know know what I am talking about.”

I had provided an articled that showed that NFL players had committed FEWER crimes and sexual crimes (per capita) than males of their age and race; hence no evidence of “rape culture” associated with football.

Their response: “I said this a lot!” and “I think that women just KNOW”….and that was supposed to be convincing.

That leads me to my final point. I posted about revisiting a church that I was once a member of.

Here I am with Barbara, giving a very goofy look.


Yes, many in this church are socially liberal and vote the same way that I do. Many have personal ministries that put my meager volunteer efforts to shame (same can be said for Christian church congregations). And yes, this church has no theological dogma to adhere to. BUT: here the dogma comes in the form of what people in an “oppressed class” say; THAT is what becomes “Gospel” for them.

Note: I am NOT talking about listening to a racial minority or a female describing what life is like for them; I get the “walk a mile in their shoes” bit. I know that I have blind spots. But that doesn’t give someone a pass to have assertions taken seriously when there is scant (or no) evidence to back them up.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen people get such passes in a church, of any stripe. Remember: in a church, belief without evidence (“faith”) is a GOOD thing, and it appears to spill over into their thinking.

For me: The Church. Not. Even. Once. 🙂


January 31, 2014 Posted by | republicans, running, social/political | , , , | Leave a comment