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God-guided events?

Workout notes
The morning was cool and sunny…the weather just couldn’t have been any better for running or walking. So I walked 10 miles on the East Peoria Trail (paved bike path): I started at CVS and went to the place where the pavement changes: 1:07:02 out, 1:02:18 back (53:30/50:02 were the 4+ mile segments)

Note: these are fall photos; right now things are green, green, green!

Humor: This is me, all too often

God guided
Many philosophers and religious types point out that it is POSSIBLE that a deity could make undetectable changes in nature (e. g., force a genetic mutation here, a nuclear decay there) thereby intentionally driving “the creative process” which leads to….well….us (humans).

Sure, a deity (or some force) COULD have done that, but where is the evidence to assume that one did? Or…perhaps, some deity of some sentient beings in some other galaxy could have intentionally created THEM and WE might be an accidental outcome of that non-human centered process.

“Could me” is not a reason to believe anything. I see it this way: if I am going to take a conjecture seriously, I need to see some evidence for it. Why is there any reason to believe that sentient beings that live in a rather ordinary region in a rather ordinary galaxy should be the center of anything?

I recommend reading Jerry Coyne’s take here; here is his finish:

Evolution, science, and mere observation tell us that the evidence is strongly against the existence of an omnipotent, loving, and omniscient God. Indeed, the evidence is far more consistent with the notion—a notion that few theists hold—that God is either apathetic, malicious, or a weenie.

The history of science and theology together shows that the former constantly nibbles away at the ambit of the latter, forcing theologians into ever more abstract conceptions of God, in which He either disappears or His actions become undetectable. This rearguard action, consisting entirely of special pleading and post facto rationalization (also called “making stuff up”), is known as Sophisticated Theology. It is propped up by the lucubrations of philosophers like Sober and Michael Ruse. Only God knows why they do it.

And as far as the “making stuff up”, I’ll quote Mano Singham:

What atheists like me say to religious believers is simply the following: If the existence of your god has empirical consequences, then provide empirical evidence that supports your contention. If it has no empirical consequences whatsoever, then say so and we will not interfere with your theological and philosophical ruminations because we do not really care to speculate on the properties of what we consider to be a mythical entity.

(emphasis mine)

Saying: “well, you can’t prove that my deity didn’t do that” is far from being good enough to be taken seriously.

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May 13, 2012 - Posted by | humor, racewalking, religion, science, superstition, walking

1 Comment »

  1. […] Now it is true that some concepts of deity can include naturalism; example: deism, or perhaps their deity has already met their “ration of miracles” some time ago. But such deities really do not interest me. I quote Mano Singham (a physicist at Case Western) here: […]

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