End of May 2012

Workout notes Last night, waking on my own plus 3.6 with the group which totaled to about 5 miles.
This morning: rain toward the end, 50’s, but I fit in my 6.4 mile run (Cornstalk plus an extra loop)

417 feet of climb; it took 1:05:31 which is one of my better times, even though it took 10:17 for the first 1.03 or so and my legs felt heavy. In fact, I went out thinking of doing only the 5.1 but felt good enough to add the 1.3 loop. Running is feeling a LOT better lately.

Posting is light as I am writing mathematics and doing some clean-up stuff.

I’ll add this to the post though:

Though I can’t comment on the Constitutionality of the Health Care Reform measure, I can say that many don’t seem to understand the issue of the mandate (that forces people to carry insurance). Here is an explanation:

This is the problem: if not every insurance company has to take those with preexisting conditions and some do, those that do will be overwhelmed by sick people and will fail (business wise). If every company has to take those with preexisting conditions and there is no mandate, then there is the potential that too many won’t sign up for health insurance (thereby pocketing the premiums) and the system will be overloaded by people who are prone to being sick.

In insurance, the healthy subsidize the chronically sick (and the occasionally sick), period. Example: in my case, I went for about 20 years before I used my insurance for my knees.

Of course, as a candidate, then Senator Obama proposed a plan with no mandate but with a public option; Senator Clinton’s plan had a mandate (that was the main difference) and what we got, after negotiation with other members of Congress and the insurance/pharmacy industry, was a plan more similar to Senator Clinton’s.

Personally, I’d like to see single payer (Medicare for all) but I am NOT holding my breath.

May 31, 2012 Posted by | Barack Obama, health care, Mitt Romney, running | Leave a comment

Lazy Days almost at an end…

Workout notes So far, swimming (2200 yards): 500 warm up, 10 x (25 drill (3g or fist), 25 swim), 10 x (25 side, 25 swim), 10 x (25 long, 25 swim) on 1:05, 200 of alt 25 fly, 25 back.

Cross Fit
Maybe I should check it out: (in each case, click on the thumbnail for the larger version at the source)

(many more photos here)

Ok, ok,

Yes, I know that Crossfit has some serious workouts; the three people that I know who have tried it tell me that it is hard, and each of these people has completed multiple 100 mile runs.

No, it isn’t for me; some of the exercises might aggravate my tender areas (knees, shoulders) and I am better off keeping the movements slow and controlled.

But in all seriousness, I can see the appeal. There are some of us who take pleasure in doing what is difficult; that is, doing what most others cannot do…and if one just looks at the “hard bodies” in the larger photo sets I can see someone saying “hey, that is a group that I want to join.

But the more a grow grows, the less exclusive it gets and the less it means to be a member of it.

I saw one of my old marathon result sheets; it was the 1981 San Antonio Marathon. I finished in 3:48 (blew up after going out WAY too fast) and finished 459 out of about 880 or so. Imagine where such a time would rank someone in most marathons these-a-days.

May 30, 2012 Posted by | big butts, spandex, swimming | Leave a comment

Kill lists, Remedial Classes and Spending…

This is not a surprise:

Each year, an estimated 1.7 million U.S. college students are steered to remedial classes to prepare them for regular coursework. But a growing body of research shows that the courses are eating up time and money, often leading not to degrees but student loan hangovers.

The expense of remedial courses, which typically cost the same as regular classes but don’t fulfill degree requirements, runs about $3 billion annually, according to research by Complete College America, a Washington-based nonprofit.

The group says the classes are largely failing the nation’s higher education system at a time when student-loan debt has become a presidential campaign issue. Meanwhile, lawmakers in at least two states have pushed through changes, and numerous institutions are redesigning the courses.

“Simply putting (students) in three levels of remedial math is really taking their money and time with no hope of success,” said Stan Jones, president of Complete College America.

Yep. The dirty truth: yes, there are SOME who have the ability (and the desire) to succeed and need to start with remedial classes, but they tend to be the rare exceptions. There is such a thing as “talent”.


Classes are being rethought. Jenkins recommends doing away with the one-size-fits-all college algebra requirement and having math classes tailored to a few broad areas of study. For instance, those studying history, law or psychology might take a math class focused more on statistics.

The Complete College America report also says research shows that half or more of remedial students would be better off placed in required classes and having the schools building in extra help, such as tutors or more frequent class meetings.

The report said institutions that have used those approaches have seen their unprepared students succeed at the same rates as their college-ready peers.

I’d like to see the results in mathematics, because that is NOT what I’ve seen at all. I wonder how this study is designed and the results measured. But I can agree with the “using the slower approach” with remedial students; that is, giving them two semesters to grind through the first semester of calculus.

Government Spending
The right wing has gone crazy over the article that pointed out that President Obama is NOT the big spender that they think that he is. Yes, the Washington Post fact checker got offended at what the Press Secretary said and ground through their own calculations, using the President’s proposed budgets (instead of what was actually passed) and used percent of actual GDP for the spending numbers (though they should have uses potential GDP were there no recession).

So, what gives? Bonedad blog gives a careful analysis by…gasp,….looking at the actual DATA, looking at what sort of spending was increased (much of it was obligatory, much of it was from Bush obligations) and noted that the deficit and increasing debt was not merely due to spending but due to DECREASED REVENUE. (duh).

True, some of the President’s economic critics ARE good at running a business, and this makes them think that they understand a national economy. They don’t:

Obama’s Kill Lists
No matter what you feel about President Obama, I’d recommend you read this New York Times article about the drone strike program (designed to kill terrorist leaders). Yes, President Bush started this and while I was always uneasy about it, I admit that my first reaction was “ok, we get the bad guys without risking more of our soldiers”.

There is much to think about. Some issues: what if you get a chance to kill an Al Qeada official and they are riding in a car..away from civilians but there are others in the car riding with him? So, you don’t take that chance, and then he executes an attack that kills hundreds of innocents…(usually Muslims)….and you had the chance to kill him first?

The people with the targeted person: what constitutes being a combatant?

These are difficult questions and the Times article discusses many of these. On this issue, I find myself at odds with some of my liberal friends. But goodness it is hard….if an innocent person is killed on this strike…versus the innocents that are (potentially) saved by killing the terrorist.

Now as to those who worry about people being targets for assassination: who decides? Well, this isn’t a “well, they are official soldiers of a country we are at war with”, but at the same time, this isn’t really law enforcement either. It is sticky, very sticky.

So to those opposed: we send in a special forces team in to “get” the official…what do you tell the families of the soldiers that were killed in the operation..and the people that THEY killed in carrying out the operation?

War is horrible, bloody and messy. I haven’t a clue as the best course of action.

Anyway, read the article…it is outstanding.

May 30, 2012 Posted by | Barack Obama, economy, education, republicans, world events | 2 Comments

Whew Part II

Nothing exceptional this morning, though I did “run” 10 miles at the East Peoria Trail (paved bikepath) in 1:44:07 (52:56 out, 51:11 back). 67-72, F, humidity in the 60 percent range. 9:23 final mile.

It was routine; I saw a few grannies, a rabbit and a chipmunk.

It wasn’t hot; however this Washington Post article talks about how the body acclimatizes to heat.

This was not a great run, but it wasn’t taxing either.

May 29, 2012 Posted by | running, time trial/ race, training | Leave a comment

Fussell RIP, Forgotton on Memorial Day, and GPS….

Workout notes Well, my stomach was fine yesterday, and I noticed that my wife had some GI trouble on Saturday as well. So hoping against hope, I ate a cheese sandwich for dinner last night….BAM. Yep….after 52.5 years of eating cheese and being ok with it….it is now over for me. 😦

So, I had to wait until the pink bismuth kicked in and I was fine; so it was 2200 yards of swimming and a rather lame lifting workout.
Weight: 187.5 prior to swimming.
Swim: 500 straight (10 minutes), 10 x 25 fist, 25 free on 1:05, 10 x (25 fly, 75 free) on 2:10..then 2:05, then 200 of back/free.
Weights: extremely lame today. Rotator cuff (pulley, dumbbell), bench: 10 x 135, 4 x 175, 4 x 175, 4 x 165, incline: 2 sets of 6 x 135, rows (one arm dumbbell), 3 sets of 10 x 55, pull ups (4 sets of 10), sit ups: 5 sets of 20, pull downs (3 sets of 10 x 150), curls (3 sets of 10 x 70 machine), military press (machine); 10 x 90, 10 x 180 (first set: 1 45 plate on each side, second: two). This machine gives you lots of leverage.

The spandex was much sparser than usual. 😦

Running: more on GPS issues: this post is outstanding!

Memorial Day
We remember people who served in the conventional armed forces. Some even remember those who served in the Confederate armed forces (I see them as traitors, but not everyone does). But I’ll tell you which American warriors are often not remembered, and you can make the argument that these were real freedom fighters: Native American Warriors. In my opinion, they are more deserving than those who fought for the Confederacy.

Died on the 23’rd of May: professor, author and soldier: Paul Fussell.

One of his later books, Wartime, was one of the best I’ve ever read.

Memorial Day and me
I’ve got an uneasy relationship with this holiday. Yes, my dad served 23 years in the United States Air Force and fought in Vietnam twice. Yes, I have friends whose dads got killed in Vietnam.
I served in the Navy, though my service was not successful. I qualified for a couple of watch stations (Diving Officer of the watch, Engineering Office of the watch) and served as a plotter during battle stations. But I wasn’t on patrol long; mostly I gave the Navy orthopedic surgeons practice with knee surgery.

So, in my “non-virtual” world, I keep quiet about my service. When I am at an event (say a game) and they ask for all veterans to stand, I only do so about half the time. When I do, it is to signify that “it is ok to serve”. But I often don’t because, well, I deserve no applause and I feel like a fraud when I get it.

So, what about our war dead?

Of course, it is my hope that NO ONE ever has to go through this…I hope that we get there someday. Everyone dies, but those killed (or cruelly wounded) in combat are mostly our strong young people.

You hear “they died for our freedom” and SOMETIMES that really is the case. But all too often (Iraq, Vietnam), they died for no good reason at all.

Nevertheless, the failures are those of our political leadership and, sometimes, our country as a whole. But (with rare exceptions), those who died in the line of duty (or were wounded, either physically, emotionally or mentally) deserve our compassion and respect.

May 28, 2012 Posted by | books, running, social/political, swimming, technology, weight training, world events | 1 Comment

Atheism, Agnosticism and being Skeptical

I was involved in a rather intense facebook discussion about my beliefs: in particular, why do I call myself an atheist.

What puzzled some is that I said something like this: “I don’t believe in the usual gods, but I have no idea if there is something “out there” that I am ignorant of”. Some thought that this meant that I am an agnostic.

Now by the traditional definition: it does…to a degree. The classical, logical definition of being agnostic means being “without knowledge” whereas atheism/theism deals with belief. So, technically speaking, I am an atheist-agnostic…sort of! 🙂

That is, I reject as nonsense, things like: resurrections, incarnate “sons of god”, virgin birth, miracle golden tablets, flaming chariots, miraculous parting of the seas, etc. I simply don’t take these stories any more seriously than I take the stories about Zeus, Thor, etc. Yes, we can learn from these stories, but I regard them as fiction and myth (myth: story with a deep meaning to many). I can completely understand how one might use these stories to organize some sort of “plan of living”.

But I think that it is POSSIBLE that there is some grand creative “force” (????) or “whatever” that we can’t detect.
So my agnosticism comes from this. I think that it is possible, but I haven’t seen convincing evidence yet (though I am puzzled and bewildered by many things; there are plenty of things that science and reason hasn’t answered as yet (and might not ever?)

I’ll give a couple of analogies to explain how I think:

Suppose we go back, say, 200 years.
Bob tells me: Hey, there are people dying mysterious deaths; obviously they offended God!
I respond: Nonsense. We don’t know why they got sick and died. Go away and leave me alone.

Tammy tells me: Hey, there are people dying mysterious deaths. You can see that there are higher than normal deaths in locations X, Y, Z. I’ll bet that there is some “force” (???) that is being carried in the air and killing these people. But we’ve ruled out these causes…it must be something in the air.”
I respond: well, I am not sure that these deaths aren’t just random (modern statistics haven’t been invented yet) and until you provide me with a mechanism, well, I am unconvinced. I don’t believe it.

Well, 200 years later: I still don’t believe Bob. But Tammy is right! We didn’t know about radiation in those days (e. g. radiation from Radon gas).

I was skeptical of both claims, but I rejected Bob’s claim as being so outlandish that it wasn’t even worth considering. I still wouldn’t consider it unless there was some extraordinary evidence (e. g., Bob had a dream, wrote down 1000 names from that dream saying that these people would be the ones to die and he was right on all details).

Tammy’s claim: incredible to me (at that time) but that is something that I am open to seeing evidence about.

Here is another example: I go to my basement. There is a pipe near the ceiling and there is green around a joint and water pooled beneath the joint.

My conclusion: there is a leak in the joint.

Sure, I wasn’t there when the leak happened

WAYNE, N.J. — Evangelist Ken Ham smiled at the 2,300 elementary students packed into pews, their faces rapt. With dinosaur puppets and silly cartoons, he was training them to reject much of geology, paleontology and evolutionary biology as a sinister tangle of lies.

“Boys and girls,” Ham said. If a teacher so much as mentions evolution, or the Big Bang, or an era when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, “you put your hand up and you say, ‘Excuse me, were you there?’ Can you remember that?”

And who knows: perhaps some deity was mad at me and supernaturally put the green at the joint and made water appear on the floor? Or perhaps my wife is playing some joke on me?

Bottom line: I can’t rule out that my wife is playing a joke on me, but I consider that to be unlikely enough to not consider, and the other possibility is ridiculous, at least to people who aren’t fundamentalists believers.

May 27, 2012 Posted by | atheism, religion, superstition | 1 Comment

Think just a bit harder….GPS systems, Sexuality, IPOs and job creation

How many fallacies do I believe? I wonder about that; in fact I wonder about this every time I see (possible) logical errors in what I read.

Here is a common one from running: many runners use a GPS system as a running watch; the Garmin models are especially popular. Frankly, I don’t use these things though I once tried out a fancy “foot pod” based odometer and a first generation Timex GPS set up. What I found: meh. My own internal “guess” as to how far I went was rarely off by more that .1-.2 miles over, say, a 5-6 mile workout. So I merely go until I think that I’ve made the distance and then add 2-3 more minutes. Presto.

But that is beside the point. I can see that many like the Garmins but….evidently don’t understand how they work. For example, it is common for a race director to get complaint because a few participants used their Garmins and judged the course to be a bit off (long or short).

Yes, some courses ARE long or short (the Metamora 3 miler is midway between 3 miles and 5K and the Peoria Turkey Trot 4 miler is about 3.8 or so). But one cannot derive that conclusion from a Garmin reading! Here is what someone said about a marathon:

I second what everyone else had to say. Really nice course. I wanted my first marathon to be smaller so this was perfect. One water station had water that tasted like milk (might need to watch that for this year) but I had gone through the night before and dropped water bottles at strategic locations and pretty much carried it with me. But everything was great – fans, finish line, nice food at the end, everything was nice. Except the distance. My garmin had it listed as 0.5 miles short. I was very disappointed as this was my first marathon and I felt like I didn’t really do a marathon based on the distance.

Ok, what about that Garmin reading? Well, here are things to consider:
1. Each reading is subject to measurement error. The manuals sometimes say that the “way points” are accurate to within a few meters”; a bit of error can add up over time.
2. The algorithm itself might be subject to round off error (in adding lengths)
3. There is error in that the Garmin puts a straight line between points when, in fact, the course might be curved. Curvy courses are more subject to this kind of error.
4. And, in the case of a certified course (the one I linked to wasn’t), remember that the course is measured by the minimum length of travel; it assumes that the runner cuts every tangent. Practically, that is impossible for many (most?) runners due to there being other runners around.

Of course, effect 3 would cause the Garmin to read less than the true distance, and effect 4 would tend to make the Garmin show more than the advertised distance.

Bottom line: if the course is reasonably measured, it will probably be more accurate than your Garmin.

And yes, you guessed it, I am planning for a mid October marathon. It might be the Des Moines event or it might be the “groomed trail” event in Libertyville. I normally do the quad cities, but Illinois plays Louisiana Tech the night before (a game I really want to watch, already set for a 7 pm kick off), and it is a 3 hour drive from Champaign to Moline; arriving at 2 am for a 7 am race really isn’t the best idea! So I am looking at “no home game” dates.

Go ahead an ignore the grammar error:

So, this is just good old common sense, right? But is the message right: is being a bit more open about sexuality lead to things like increased teenage pregnancies?

Well, check out the data:

Scale: Average number of births for every 1,000 girls aged 15 to 19.

Gee, those European countries with more liberal attitudes….do a bit better, don’t they?
So if one was REALLY interested in this sort of public morality (pregnant teenagers) perhaps we ought to look at, well, other factors?

Nah, many people want simplistic answers such as the one suggested in the cartoon. 🙂

Here is why I provided the list of teen pregnancy rates:

Pierre-Andre Michaud, chief of the Multidisciplinary Unit for Adolescent Health at the University of Lausanne Hospital in Switzerland and a leading researcher in European teen sexuality, dismisses the idea–widely held in the United States–that sex constitutes risky behavior for teens. In an editorial in May’s Journal of Adolescent Health, he wrote:

“In many European countries — Switzerland in particular — sexual intercourse, at least from the age of 15 or 16 years, is considered acceptable and even part of normative adolescent behavior.” Switzerland, he noted, has one of the world’s lowest rates of abortion and teen pregnancy. Teens there, like those in Sweden and the Netherlands, have easy access to contraceptives, confidential health care and comprehensive sex education.

A 2001 Guttmacher Institute report, drawing on data from 30 countries in Western and Eastern Europe, concluded: “Societal acceptance of sexual activity among young people, combined with comprehensive and balanced information about sexuality and clear expectations about commitment and prevention childbearing and STDs [sexually transmitted diseases] within teenage relationships, are hallmarks of countries with low levels of adolescent pregnancy, childbearing and STDs.” The study cited Sweden as the “clearest of the case-study countries in viewing sexuality among young people as natural and good.” […]

The wealthy create jobs? Well, many of them don’t.
This Joe Nocera New York Times article (about facebook stock going public) isn’t really about whether or not the wealthy are the job creators that the Republicans say, but:

So I guess you’ve heard about the recent initial public offering that didn’t turn out the way it was supposed to. The company’s Wall Street advisers misjudged the market, and, on its first day of trading, the stock went a little haywire. Then it slowly sank, dropping around 10 percent over the next month.

No, I’m not talking about Facebook. I am referring to Splunk, an 8-year-old, money-losing data analytics company that went public five weeks ago. Splunk’s investment bankers priced the stock at $17 a share. But it closed its first day of trading at $35.48 — a gain of 109 percent — before declining over the next month. (It has rebounded in the last week.)

The offering raised $229.5 million for the company. But if the bankers had done a better job of pricing the shares — and had come closer to the $35 a share that investors were willing to pay — the company would have reaped twice as much. Putting cash in a company’s coffers is supposed to be the whole purpose of an I.P.O. Isn’t it?

Who got all that extra money? The hedge fund managers and Wall Street insiders who were allocated shares — and who immediately flipped those shares for a quick, easy profit. That’s how I.P.O.s work nowadays: It is assumed that the offering will be underpriced, and anybody who can get shares at the I.P.O. price is guaranteed a killing. This pattern has become the very definition of a successful public offering.

He goes on to say that Facebook was priced at a fair price: it helped the company raise revenue to grow, but it didn’t provide our hedge fund managers a chance for a quick, easy profit.

THAT is one reason I say that the wealthiest among us are not necessarily the “job creators”. If you want to create jobs, stimulate demand!

May 27, 2012 Posted by | economy, football, marathons, political/social, running, science, social/political, technology | Leave a comment


Today’s walk: House to bordem walk (3:19 ; 7:44 to 11:03 “running clock time”); 76 F (24 C) , 69% at the start, 90 F (32 C), 52% at the end. Sunny; muggy. What I noticed: there were more people than usual out this morning; it could be the heat, or that it is lighter earlier or ??? It was pretty, but I carried a 20 oz. bottle of Powerade Zero and drank ALL of it prior to finishing; that is unusual for me.

I saw fewer runners than usual though.

May 27, 2012 Posted by | training, walking | Leave a comment

Idea Saturday: Galaxies, Quantum Mechanics and Eyesight, and other topics


This is the President’s weekly address about Memorial Day.


What does quantum mechanics have to do with your eyesight?  Roughly speaking, the individual photons in the spectrum of visible light have just the right energy to induce the necessary chemical reactions to carry out the proper nerve signal.  It is true the there are much higher energy waves hitting your eyes all of the time (even when your eyelids are closed), but it is the energy level of the individual photons that matter, not the total energy level of the signal.   Seriously, read the post.  It is both excellent and brief !

Our universe, showing off

Click on the thumbnail to see the full size photo, with explanation. Our galaxy appears like this to others who are millions of light years away…then again they aren’t seeing “us”, are they? 🙂

Long but interesting
You might think of this as “are you really an atheist” post. The basic idea: “god” and a “concept of god” are different things, and what many label as believing…well, is it really believing? This lasts 44 minutes but I enjoyed it, and I enjoyed toying around and debating (with myself) the ideas that Dr. Dennett puts forth.

(via: Jerry Coyne)

Political Correctness
If you are from my era and you hear “political correctness”, you probably think of some feminist arguing that, say, women are just as capable of being NFL players as men are, or other such things (yes, I’ve HEARD this said out loud, without irony, years ago). You might think of many other silly things.

But the new political correctness is far deadlier in that it has the backing of big money:

Today, however, the big threat to our discourse is right-wing political correctness, which — unlike the liberal version — has lots of power and money behind it. And the goal is very much the kind of thing Orwell tried to convey with his notion of Newspeak: to make it impossible to talk, and possibly even think, about ideas that challenge the established order.

Thus, even talking about “the wealthy” brings angry denunciations; we’re supposed to call them “job creators”. Even talking about inequality is “class warfare”.

Science might not be immune to such forces; think of, say, a big oil company funding research that shows that burning fossil fuels does NOT contribute to global warming, for example.

On the other end of ideas


May 26, 2012 Posted by | astronomy, atheism, Barack Obama, biology, moron, photos, physics, politics, politics/social, science, social/political, superstition | Leave a comment

Chillicothe River Run 5K: pfft.

Ok, I was (by my watch) 4 seconds away from a GREAT run (by this year’s standards) but instead had a bad run.

Time: 25:03 (my watch).  I don’t know my place yet.

8:08, 8:07, 8:47 (for 1.1); pace averaged to be 8:04 minutes per mile. (7:52 pace for the last mile)

I’ve done this race twice over the past three years (2009, 2011).

Background: last week’s marathon blow up took something out of me, and last night I had some lower GI trouble (several trips to the bathroom; either too much cheese at lunch or the meal last night).  So I was a bit sleepy and not quite 100 percent;  I considered skipping the race.  I am glad that I didn’t; though I wanted sub 25, this was still my second fastest of the year.

My warm up was about 2 miles and I felt ok during it; no knee pain, no piriformis pain; I wasn’t all that tired.  Temperatures were in the high 60’s-low 70’s.

I started out gently and managed to avoid the kid who stopped in the first .5 mile to “high five” some guy in a silver costume who was standing in the middle of the course.  But I was able to find a place to run fairly easily and deliberately kept the pace under control.  I saw the clock tick past 8 minutes but didn’t realize it was the 1 mile clock; I thought it was the “1 mile to go” clock.    Past 10 minutes or so, I saw the lead runner at mile 2 (on his way back) while we circled the park and ball fields.

I had already passed a pack of people who had started out too fast and was gaining on others and managed to pass some.

Finally, at mile 2 I was still feeling ok (16:15) and decided to try to pick it up; I knew that I’d need 8:44 (about a 7:54 mile) to break 25.   I came close.

I gained on many and passed about a half-dozen including two women in purple shorts (not running together); one of these women HAD been pacing a young girl.  Well, a race is a race, and the one pacing the young girl forgot about her pacing and went after me as did the other lady.  Both got me in the last 200 meters or so and I didn’t have the “kick” to get them back.

I did see the clock in the distance but it was hard enough to maintain, never mind “pick it up”.

Afterward, I talked to others; I managed to tease T about her being hung over (she still got 2’nd in her age group) and…in a sort of painful but sweet moment, I talked to the widow of one of my running friends.  We hugged; she said that she didn’t care that I was sweaty.

Where to go from here:  I need to be patient and add some sort of “tempo” workout midweek (a 20 minute run at, say, 8:20-8:30 mpm or so).

For the record:  6 5K races, mean is 25:09, median is 25:10, one race 31 seconds slower than the median, one 36 seconds faster; the other 4 were within 6 seconds of the median.

Today: 25:03 (8:08, 8:07, 8:47)

May 12 25:13 (8:25, 7:34, 9:12)

May 5 24:34 (7:54, 7:45, 8:54)

April 28 25:41

March 31 25:14 (8:27, 8:17, 8:29)

March 24 25:08 (8:14, 8:19, 8:34)










May 26, 2012 Posted by | Friends, running, time trial/ race, training | 16 Comments