6 July 2011: More Fair Criticism of President Obama (and other topics)
Workout notes 3 mile run (sans stopwatch); ok, it was more than 3 miles but it was terrible. Sure the morning was pretty and I enjoyed being outside. But I could barely catch my breath even though I didn’t run that hard. I detest double red cell blood donation (2.5 weeks ago). I should start to feel better in a couple of weeks.
Afterward, I lifted weights and that went ok:
incline bench: 10 x 115, 10 x 130, 5 x 135
curl: (barbell, EZ-curl bar and pedestal): 3 sets of 10 x 62 pounds (two 10′s on each end)
pull down: 3 sets of 12 x 140 (shoulder friendly grip)
Hammer rows: 3 sets of 10 x 200 pounds (both arms at once)
sit ups: 4 sets of 25 at the highest incline
hip adductors: 2 sets of 10 x 170
hip abductors: 2 sets of 10 x 170
push-backs (machine) 2 sets of 10 x 110 (each leg)
plus: rotator cuff, hip hikes, weightless lunges
I had some slight leg tingles but overall everything went well.
Social: Olivia and I took a trip to the Lincoln Museum and Library in Springfield. I was struck by the destruction of the Civil War and by how much President Lincoln was hated during his time. Overall, I can recommend it.
One of the displays (the Civil War in 4 minutes; there is a map with a running tally of the casualties) can be found here.
I bought my own copy.
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Do you like special effects in movies? Check this out:
Pat Buchanan: argues that prejudice must have some merit since it has persisted for such a long time.
Well, perhaps prejudice might have served us for 50,000 years or so when we were spread out and worried about others taking our water hole. But we are past that and need to adapt to civilization. By Mr. Buchanan’s argument, men having multiple sex partners must also be a good thing.
Fair Criticism of President Obama
I agree that President Obama is hampered by politics, but I sometimes wonder if he is guilty of adapting to “serious” right wing narratives of the economy:
To those defending Obama on the grounds that he’s saying what he has to politically, I have two answers. First, words matter — as people who rallied around Obama in the first place because of his eloquence should know. Yes, he has to make compromises on policy grounds — but that doesn’t mean he has to adopt the right’s rhetoric and arguments. The effect of his intellectual capitulation is that we now have only one side in the national argument.
Second, since Obama keeps talking nonsense about economics, at what point do we stop giving him credit for actually knowing better? Maybe at some point we have to accept that he believes what he’s saying.
The question then is why. As I’ve tried to show many times, the facts overwhelmingly refute the anti-Keynes talking points. Neither the invisible bond vigilantes nor the confidence fairy have made an appearance. So why is Obama talking up those talking points?
OK, here’s an unprofessional speculation: maybe it’s personal. Maybe the president just doesn’t like the kind of people who tell him counterintuitive things, who say that the government is not like a family, that it’s not right for the government to tighten its belt when Americans are tightening theirs, that unemployment is not caused by lack of the right skills. Certainly just about all the people who might have tried to make that argument have left the administration or are leaving soon.
Here is a critique of the “right skills” argument:
You can see this in Obama’s Today Show interview where he appeared to suggest that unemployment is primarily attributable to technological change:
There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to be much more efficient with fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don’t go to a bank teller. Or you see it when you go to the airport and you use a kiosk instead of checking at the gate. What we have to do now, and this is what the jobs council is all about, is identifying where the jobs for the future are going to be, how do we make sure that there’s a match between what people are getting trained for and the jobs that exist, how do we make sure that capital is flowing in those places with the greatest opportunity.
Now obviously this is true. One thing that people do is they try to invent machines such that they can then go to businessmen and say, “Buying my machine would be cheaper than paying a worker.” This causes job losses. The invention of the answering machine reduced the need for secretaries. Advances in electronic filing further reduced the need. Cell phones and email have even further reduced the need. ATMs reduce the need for bank tellers. Self-serve checkout machines reduce the need for grocery store clerks. And this is, indeed, one reason why people are unemployed. It’s also the source of progress over the long term. But technological change is a constant. Firms were seeking to adopt labor-saving technology in 1998 and 2006 and 1967 just as much as they are today in 2011. And yet the unemployment rate was much lower in 1998 and 2006 and 1967 than it is today.[...]
True, but I see the President’s remarks as a justification for money for education, which I approve of. But yes, I wish he were more sympathetic to the “demand side” version of economics.
Republican Howlers: July 5, 2011 Edition
Former Washington Times columnist Eliana Benador, who was fired for writing a piece speculating that former Rep. Anthony Weiner had converted to Islam and was pushing a “socialist political agenda,” has found a new home for her controversial work: Tea Party Nation.
RightWingWatch.org, a watchdog for conservative media that is part of political activism group People for the American Way, excerpted Benador’s debut column on the conservative social networking site, meditating on the “invasion of America” by “non-European immigrants.”
“As we celebrate America’s Independence Day, it’s noteworthy that the percentage reduction of original American voters, might have been a defining factor in the election of someone like the current president, who among other goals, seems to be keen in opening further our borders to endlessly increasing numbers of immigrants who, regardless of their skin color, are bringing in a whole new texture of culture, 100% foreign to what America’s origins were as its wonderful adventure began back in 1776,” Benador wrote.
Tea Party Nation has previously published writings that warn of the impending “extinction” of the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population.[...]
So….now guess who is “considering” running for the GOP nomination? Think: “elite academic institution that is known for basketball success”. You guessed it!
Poll after poll indicates that GOP voters are not particularly happy with the field of candidates that are vying for the 2012 GOP nomination. But how would they feel if white supremacist David Duke jumped into the race? Well, since polls also put a high premium on electability, I’m guessing they’d feel even more dispirited about it. But we’ll have to see if anything comes of the news today that Duke is mulling getting into the presidential fray, as Eve Conant reports for The Daily Beast.
Add to the growing list of candidates considering a bid for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012 America’s most famous white-power advocate: David Duke.
Yikes! That’s not good news. But before we get too deep in to speculating, I’ll point out that Duke doesn’t exactly have imminent plans to file with the FEC or anything. Rather, he’s embarking on “a tour of 25 states to explore how much support he can garner for a potential presidential bid.” So, we are in the purely embryonic stage of an official Duke candidacy.
What a sideshow!
But back to the more “mainstream” candidates: a conservative commentator at Fox News (no less) is less than impressed with Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin:
Fox’s Saturday conservative commentator Liz Trotta came out swinging this weekend, taking down both Rep. Michele Bachmann and colleague Sarah Palin for their historical inaccuracies. Quoting Ezra Klein and Matt Taibbi, Trotta joked the two shared an alma mater in “Fleabag U,” and that “as far as flubs go, they are leading the field.”
Trotta didn’t seem surprised that Rep. Bachmann and Palin were being compared: “it’s almost preordained because it seems to be they both took the same american history course, and it may have been at Fleabag U.” She chided them for both their latest gaffes– the Paul Revere comments that sparked controversy from Palin, and Rep. Bachmann’s “Lexington and Concord and in New Hampshire” quip. Using various quotes by Taibbi and Ezra Klein (“Rep. Bachmann is the candidate that Sarah Palin is supposed to be”), she argued that “they can’t get away from these criticisms, and even laughed at Rep. Bachmann’s claim that she has a “scholarly background.”
Quick Midday Comments (5 July 2011)
Science People who live in certain areas of the south are more prone to stroke and memory loss:
People in a large area of the American South have long been known to have more strokes and to be more likely to die from them than people living elsewhere in the country.
Now, a large national study suggests the so-called stroke belt may have another troubling health distinction. Researchers have found that Southerners there also are more likely to experience a decline in cognitive ability over several years — specifically, problems with memory and orientation.
The differences to date in the continuing study are not large: Of nearly 24,000 participants, 1,090 in eight stroke-belt states showed signs of cognitive decline after four years, compared with 847 people in 40 other states.
But the geographic difference persisted even after the researchers adjusted for factors — like age, sex, race and education — that might influence the result. The most recent data from the study were published in Annals of Neurology.
None of the people with cognitive decline in the study had had detectable strokes.[...]
Hmmm, what is going on: food? weather? (is freezing your butt of for several months of the year actually good for you?) I’d be interested in finding out.
Atheist Conferences
I’ve never been to one. Evidently, there has been a flap over someone complaining that being asked out for coffee in an elevator made them uncomfortable; see here.
Ok, things happen; any group of passionate human beings will generate some dissent from time to time.
But one of the blogs I regularly read pointed us to this post. At the latter post, one can read such gems as:
In sum, men who corner women know what they’re doing. And yes, they are relying on the fear of rape to grease the wheels towards getting laid. Rebecca may not have put it that way, but being a mean ol’ feminist bitch, I’m happy to say it.
and
And I also know, being a feminist for many years now, that whenever a bunch of dudes start freaking out on a woman who called out some egregious sexism, there are a bunch of women willing to back those dudes up in order to get that coveted male approval and attention. I call this move Pulling An Althouse.
In short, this person purports to “know” a great deal including how other people think
. Moral: being an atheist doesn’t make you rational.
This demonstrates why such conferences do not interest me. I like math and science conferences because people gather there for a common interest, and there is a bit of self selection going on there. Most people there have met some sort of intellectual standard and, not surprisingly, the participants happen to me more atheistic than the population at large.
4 July 2011 am
I am up early; I am planning to run in a local 4′th of July 5K (the Firecracker) which is a Jaycee fundraiser. I am not in shape to race, so this will be (for me) a public run with the crowd; no time goal at all.
Yes, in the days of old I could show up out of shape and run a 22 minute 5K. No longer; sub 30 would be more like it today. But…that is how it goes in nature…even for spiders:
If, like me, you’re feeling the ravages of age, no longer lithe and limber, and you’re starting to realize that you grunt every time you sit down, take heart. Other animals also fall apart with age. ScienceShot reports that spiders do too:
On Saturday, biologists will present research at the Society for Experimental Biology annual conference in Glasgow showing that as spiders age, they build shabbier, less perfect webs than they did in their youth.[...]
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Religious freedom versus secular law The Netherlands has a law that demands humane treatment of animals including those that are about to be eaten. Evidently Jewish and Muslim law requires the throat to be slit while the animal is still alive and alert which runs afoul of this law. Via Mano Singham:
The Dutch government has taken the first steps towards banning the slaughter of animals without stunning them first. This means that the way Jews and Muslims produce kosher and halal meat is no longer allowed since that requires the slitting of the animal’s throat while it is still alive.
These two religious groups are upset and joining together to claim (surprise!) religious persecution. As one might have predicted, the specter of Hitler is being invoked, with the chief rabbi of the Netherlands comparing this action to the Nazi persecution of the Jews. On the Muslim side, one imam told Reuters, “This is a political decision. Who has the authority to determine whether the way of killing animals is good or not?”
Well, duh. When a country’s parliament passes a law, it goes without saying that it is a political decision. And surely that same body has the authority to pass laws governing its food supply?
Religious people cannot seem to get it into their heads that just because some obscure and anonymous desert nomads wrote something a couple of thousand years ago, that is not a basis for deciding policies in the 21st century. You need to make the case based on contemporary knowledge and mores.
Exactly. Why people expect deference to some ancient, superstition filled document is beyond comprehension. Your religious freedom only extends to YOU and not to other beings that might be affected. This is a bit more extreme but: I am descended from Aztecs and I don’t expect to be able to cut out the hearts of other people and offer them up to the Sun God.
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Hey, you can give a tax-cut to a greedy millionaire or you can turn the page!!!
On another topic
One of the more interesting things is that some conservatives are completely unable to admit that they got any help from the government or government programs AT ALL. Some of the worst offenders are my Naval Academy classmates: they were educated at tax payer expense, drew a government paycheck and many went on to work for defense contractors.
This link contains a chart that points out the government programs that many (most) have taken advantage of:
The idea behind the post is that people consider a government program not to be “help” if it has a certain type of label.
Here is an example of the worst of this not being able to even recognize that something is help:
Relevant part is about 2:30 or so into it:
Anyway, then he says — I’d say apropos of nothing if “apropos of nothing” wasn’t a good way to describe this entire conversation — “What happened to society? I go into business, I don’t make it, I go bankrupt. I’ve been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No. They gave me hope, they gave me encouragement, and they gave me a vision.”
Uhm…didn’t “they” also “help you out” with WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS? What? Do you not — I…but…but — are you unclear on the concept of — am I? Are you? Is this supposed…what? Really? Huh?
Am I missing something here? Craig, are you trying to send us a secret message, that the poltergeists are back in your teevee, or something?
Social/Political
Unions sometimes get criticized. This is one reason why (at my private university this clown would be gone). This guy was caught exposing himself in town but wasn’t able to be fired from his professor’s job. At our university, our primary job is to teach undergraduates and I can’t imagine students being comfortable around him due to his behavior. Then again, this might be a case of the guy having to pee really badly; the details of the case I have are very sketchy.
Social comment I don’t go to atheist conferences and am not up on the “insider politics”. Some of the bloggers that I follow do go to conferences.
From what I can gather: evidently a female was at a conference and was very tired and riding down the elevator when some male asked her out for coffee. She refused…he accepted her refusal. She blogged about it and got criticism. Then followed a back-and-forth to which one of my favorite bloggers said this:
Time to get personal: if you’re offended by my opinions, that’s fine. But don’t dismiss me. Don’t condescend to me. Don’t tell me that I’ve never experienced sexism or been in extremely threatening situations. Don’t insult my intelligence or belittle my education by telling me that I haven’t read enough on the topic (I have, and I happen to disagree with a lot of it). Don’t tell me that I’m an idiot who has been brainwashed by some supposed “patriarchy”. I am horrified by the violence and oppression experienced by women throughout the world. I’ve faced plenty of sexism and have been in threatening situations. I’ve read the books. I’ve thought about the issues. I’m smart and educated and a critical thinker. I just happen to disagree with you. And I (and anyone who feels similarly) shouldn’t be shouted down or vilified for expressing that disagreement.
5) Relatedly, a man who agrees with the major tenets of what is generally considered “mainstream” feminism but does not think that all acts of discrimination and sexism are equally problematic is not sexist, ignorant, unaware of their supposed “male privilege”, engaging in “mansplaining”, a part of the “patriarchy”, an oppressor, or an enemy. And you know what? These men should be allowed to openly disagree in debates like this without the fear of being labeled a misogynist, being vilified, or being shouted down. Yet time and time again, I’ve heard from my male friends that they feel the need to censor themselves for precisely that reason. And the men who do dare to dissent in perfectly legitimate and reasonable ways indeed are unjustly vilified and bullied. And that’s not okay.
Here’s the thing: feminists can be bullies. Nasty ones. And when anyone, male or female, is reluctant or afraid to express their disagreement on any aspect of this issue for fear of being vilified and shouted down, that’s a major problem.
I had wondered about “gee, is writing a blog post saying “I don’t like this” really being a bully, even if what you write is complete crackpottery? Ms. Hale responded to me:
Perhaps I should’ve made it clearer, but I thought the links at the beginning of the post and my reference to the cause of the current internet drama indicated that the bullying in question refers both to Rebecca Watson’s actions at the CFI… conference and the general shouting-down (on all sorts of blogs, etc.) of comments/responses that don’t completely “toe the feminist line”. Those responses are often called ignorant, or the commenter in question is told they “just don’t get it”, or that they need to “learn”, or whatever, when, in reality, it’s most likely that they just don’t agree. They get it. They’re not ignorant. They just don’t have the same take on the situation/issue.
And while I have not seen this at a conference, I’ve seen this at, say, a UU church. The idea is roughly this: the poor, oppressed women finally have the courage to speak out and are expected to be encouraged…and that means those horrible oppressive men staying silent while the women say whatever.
Part of this might be generational; since I didn’t grow up with the “shut up woman” mentality I don’t see how speaking your mind is more courageous for a woman than for a man. Older women tell me that many of them prefer younger men for exactly this reason; we (on the average) see women differently than men their age do!
But I think this is an example of what Ms. Hale was talking about. The problem: instead of just saying “I don’t like this and this is why…when you say xxx I feel ” we get the same old ranting. True, what this person says, on logical grounds, actually makes sense. And yes, people on Daily Kos rant…but mostly we rant at “the other”. Here, the rant is directed internally.
No, I don’t consider this to be bullying; I mostly just ignore what this person has to say and listen to calmer people. And at in-person meetings of this type, either I don’t show up or if I do, I just let my mind wander and think about other things and then ask a calmer person what they think in private. And yes, my mind HAS been changed…frequently. I see that all too often I am blind to certain things; I know that I haven’t walked a mile in everyone else’s shoes.
Back in Peoria 2 July
No, Olivia is not happy about my stuffed frogs helping me play dominoes. She is even less happy that the frogs won all 4 games.
The drive back, save a long wait on I-55 just north of St. Louis, went ok.
If you are taking this I’d recommend taking I-70 going East (from I-55) and then turning north on Illinois 4; that would bypass the mess and not add too many miles.

Back to normal stuff tomorrow.
Trip Home: Rotten Oklahoma leg
Workout notes: early am; swim at Barton Springs: 1 mile in 37:04.
Then half mile walk, 2 mile run (10:17 for the 2 miles, 10:50 for 2+, half mile back.
It all went ok; no real pain.
Then I went on our trip from Austin to Peoria, with the idea of spending a night in Missouri. All went ok until we tried to enter I-44 (Oklahoma turnpike) near Big Cabin.
What happened:
1. We were not permitted to go East on I-44 due to a semi accident; we were forced to go west and couldn’t exit until Claremore, Oklahoma.
2. Huge line to get off at Claremore.
3. We were CHARGED for the leg of the trip that we were forced to make. I swore then that I would NOT stay the night in Oklahoma no matter how tired I was.
4. Back tracked through Pryor back to I-44 which was now…clear…sort of.
5. Now a huge traffic jam; stopped for most of the time and a State Trooper car moved us to the right lane.
6. Now that we were in a small moving line….but no cone-off of the left lane…you guessed it, some “special snowflake idiots cut into the left lane and got around people.
7. But here is a WIN: the semi truck in front of us had enough of the cheaters. It moved into the left lane and blocked them, while maintaining the pace of the right lane. Hence we left it’s space open for it! My daughter yelled “trucker WIN”!!!
8. Finally we got out of the single lane area; we spent an extra 2 hours, 30 minutes and 72 miles (and an extra 1.50 in turnpike toll…idiots.
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