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Sunday July 7 2008

Workout notes 8 miles in West Peoria (1:54, 57 each way) in perfect conditions. My body feels tired and weak; too much driving this week, I think.

Then I went to Forest Park Nature Center with my family and did the outer loop in 56:54 and an extra .75 to give myself just over 4 miles of trail. I saw two families of wild turkeys and a couple of deer along the way.

This walk wasn’t that bad; it is almost as if the road walking loosened me up or something.

My guess is that my attempting to add some running is taking a toll; I have to be patient. But I realize now that the reason I haven’t done well in recent ultras is that I am not in great shape; I am 10 pounds too heavy and I haven’t done enough higher intensity stuff.

Religion: though I identify myself as an atheist or an agnostic (atheist with respect to personal deities; agnostic with respect to a “spirit of the universe”) I am still interested in the history of religion, history of the Bible, etc.

So I found this article to be very interesting:

JERUSALEM — A three-foot-tall tablet with 87 lines of Hebrew that scholars believe dates from the decades just before the birth of Jesus is causing a quiet stir in biblical and archaeological circles, especially because it may speak of a messiah who will rise from the dead after three days.

If such a messianic description really is there, it will contribute to a developing re-evaluation of both popular and scholarly views of Jesus, since it suggests that the story of his death and resurrection was not unique but part of a recognized Jewish tradition at the time.

The tablet, probably found near the Dead Sea in Jordan according to some scholars who have studied it, is a rare example of a stone with ink writings from that era — in essence, a Dead Sea Scroll on stone.

It is written, not engraved, across two neat columns, similar to columns in a Torah. But the stone is broken, and some of the text is faded, meaning that much of what it says is open to debate.

Still, its authenticity has so far faced no challenge, so its role in helping to understand the roots of Christianity in the devastating political crisis faced by the Jews of the time seems likely to increase.

Daniel Boyarin, a professor of Talmudic culture at the University of California at Berkeley, said that the stone was part of a growing body of evidence suggesting that Jesus could be best understood through a close reading of the Jewish history of his day.

“Some Christians will find it shocking — a challenge to the uniqueness of their theology — while others will be comforted by the idea of it being a traditional part of Judaism,” Mr. Boyarin said.

Given the highly charged atmosphere surrounding all Jesus-era artifacts and writings, both in the general public and in the fractured and fiercely competitive scholarly community, as well as the concern over forgery and charlatanism, it will probably be some time before the tablet’s contribution is fully assessed. It has been around 60 years since the Dead Sea Scrolls were uncovered, and they continue to generate enormous controversy regarding their authors and meaning.

The scrolls, documents found in the Qumran caves of the West Bank, contain some of the only known surviving copies of biblical writings from before the first century A.D. In addition to quoting from key books of the Bible, the scrolls describe a variety of practices and beliefs of a Jewish sect at the time of Jesus.

How representative the descriptions are and what they tell us about the era are still strongly debated. For example, a question that arises is whether the authors of the scrolls were members of a monastic sect or in fact mainstream. A conference marking 60 years since the discovery of the scrolls will begin on Sunday at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, where the stone, and the debate over whether it speaks of a resurrected messiah, as one iconoclastic scholar believes, also will be discussed.

Oddly, the stone is not really a new discovery. It was found about a decade ago and bought from a Jordanian antiquities dealer by an Israeli-Swiss collector who kept it in his Zurich home. When an Israeli scholar examined it closely a few years ago and wrote a paper on it last year, interest began to rise. There is now a spate of scholarly articles on the stone, with several due to be published in the coming months.

“I couldn’t make much out of it when I got it,” said David Jeselsohn, the owner, who is himself an expert in antiquities. “I didn’t realize how significant it was until I showed it to Ada Yardeni, who specializes in Hebrew writing, a few years ago. She was overwhelmed. ‘You have got a Dead Sea Scroll on stone,’ she told me.”

Much of the text, a vision of the apocalypse transmitted by the angel Gabriel, draws on the Old Testament, especially the prophets Daniel, Zechariah and Haggai.

Hat tip to Friendly Atheist.

The interesting thing here is this:

1. The “rise again after 3 days” would NOT be unique to Christianity and
2. The “Resurrection” would be more about redeeming Israel than “washing away the sins of humanity”.

No, this type of find won’t shake the faith of fundies, but it might help mainstream scholars better understand the historical context to the events described in the New Testament.

July 6, 2008 - Posted by blueollie | hiking, politics/social, religion, walking | | 5 Comments

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  1. Any student of the Old and New Testaments will recognize that rising again after 3 days is hardly a uniquely Christian idea; it comes straight from Judaism in the story of Jonah. Jesus, a Jew himself, referred to Jonah’s time in the big fish as a foreshadowing of his death and resurrection in Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”. So I guess I don’t find it that remarkable that a Jewish tablet dating when it did might speak of such things, since there’s a precedent for it in Jewish scripture. Of course it’s still an interesting archaeological find! Thanks for posting about it.

    Comment by Tammy | July 6, 2008 | Reply

  2. I didn’t word my post well: it was the idea of a Messiah figure suffering, dying and rising again (all three components) that were there.

    The interest would be, if I read the article correctly, is that this “meme” (?) would have been around and in the consciousness of the Gospel writers.

    Comment by blueollie | July 6, 2008 | Reply

  3. It is highly probable this stone tablet text is simply another sensationalist scam, as is clearly indicated by the facts

    (1) that no specific information is available on its provenance and

    (2) that no details are provided on carbon dating of the ink.

    As such, this “news” falls right in line with the faked Lost-Tomb-of-Jesus “documentary” designed to make a profit off of people’s fascination with the “real” Jesus, and with the larger scandal of the biased and misleading way the Dead Sea scrolls are being presented in museum exhibits around the world, with an antisemitic expression appearing on a government-run North Carolina museum’s website. See, e.g.,

    http://spinozaslens.com/libet/articles/dworkin_ethicsofexhibition.htm

    and

    http://blog.news-record.com/staff/frontpew/archives/2008/06/dead_sea_scroll.shtml.

    Comment by Museum Ethics | July 6, 2008 | Reply

  4. The article said to view the discovery with a bit of skepticism, though the NYT thought it was worthy of being published.

    Comment by blueollie | July 7, 2008 | Reply

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