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Debunking the Clinton Claim that “she’d already be the nominee” by Republican Rules

HRC has claimed that “she’d already be the nominee if we had Republican rules”.

Clinton called her base of support “broader and deeper” than Obama’s, and said, “At the end of the day, that’s what it should be about for Democrats. You know, it is who can better win. And I’ve won the big states. I’ve won the states that we have to anchor. If we had the Republican rules, I would already be the nominee.”

Is that so? I claim that the answer is “no”. Remember that, of the states that have been contested, only Vermont, Virginia, D. C., New York, Missouri, Arizona, New Jersey, Utah and Delaware are winner take all.

So, I crunched the numbers and gave the winner of the “winner take all” states all of the delegates. Note that the Republicans in Louisiana have a weird rule about someone having to get 50% of the vote to get delegates and that the Democrats have a part caucus, part election system in Texas.

I went ahead and kept proportionality in the non-winner take all states.

The result came out 1409 Clinton, 1405 Obama. That is hardly having the nomination wrapped up.

About the table: the middle column has a “y” for the winner take all states, and the left two columns redistribute the delegates according to a “winner take all” basis in these states.

Note: the Republicans distribute the delegates in some of the “non-winner take all” states by “winner take all” in each district but I didn’t go district by district; I felt that the Democratic distribution was a good enough approximation. Note that this may well have added to Obama as Clinton failed to win many districts, say, in Illinois.

clinton obama Rep-wta clinton-r Obama-r
alabama 25 27 25 27
alaska 4 9 4 9
arizona 31 25 y 56 0
arkansas 27 8 27 8
california 204 166 204 166
colorado 20 35 y 20 35
connecticut 22 26 y 22 26
deleware 6 9 y 0 15
dc 3 12 y 0 15
florida 0 0
georgia 27 60 27 60
hawaii 6 14 6 14
Idaho 3 15 3 15
Illinois 49 104 y 49 104
Iowa 14 25 14 25
Kansas 9 23 y 9 23
Louisiana 22 34 y 22 34
Maine 9 15 y 9 15
Maryland 28 42 y 28 42
Massachusetts 55 38 55 38
Michigan 0 0
Minnesota 24 48 y 24 48
Mississippi 13 20 y 13 20
Missouri 36 36 y 0 72
Nebraska 8 16 y 8 16
Nevada 12 13 12 13
New Hampshire 9 9 9 9
New Jersey 59 48 y 107 0
New Mexico 14 12 14 12
New York 139 93 y 232 0
North Dakota 5 8 5 8
Ohio 74 67 74 67
Oklahoma 24 14 24 14
Pennsylvania 85 73 85 73
Rhode Island 13 8 13 8
South Carolina 12 25 12 25
Tennesse 40 28 40 28
Texas 94 99 94 99
Utah 9 14 y 0 23
Vermont 6 9 y 0 15
Virginia 29 54 y 0 83
Washington 26 52 26 52
Wisconsin 32 42 32 42
Wyoming 5 7 5 7
1332 1482 1409 1405

May 3, 2008 - Posted by blueollie | hillary clinton, obama, politics/social | | 3 Comments

3 Comments »

  1. I think throughout her meaningless tirades Hillarity has been counting Michigan and Florida as if those were legal primaries.

    Comment by Michael | May 3, 2008 | Reply

  2. The GOP is counting half the delegates from MI anf FL. I’m sure that doesn’t get her over the top either, but maybe she thinks she would have gotten enough Supers based on pledged delegates that she would be there.

    Comment by Cy Guy | May 8, 2008 | Reply

  3. Cy Guy: remember that the Republicans did campaign in both states, and that Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan.

    That is why I left them off.

    Comment by blueollie | May 9, 2008 | Reply


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